Also, ich finde das gut, wenn sich auch Tokina nun neben Tamron und Sigma positioniert und behauptet. Und die Zusammenarbeit mit Pentax wird hoffentlich beiden nutzen. KoMi war schon ein Tiefschlag. So erwas möchte ich die nächsten Jahre nicht noch mal lesen müsen.
Das 12-24 interessiert mich ausgesprochen stark. Was die anderen Linsen angeht, muss ich mal schauen.
Neue Tokina-Objektive!
Moderator: donholg
Kaum noch ein Hersteller kann sich momentan leisten, autark zu bleiben... Irgendwo wird immer zusammen entwickelt oder produziert. Oft dringt das nicht an die Öffentlichkeit, weil es beide Seiten als besser empfinden, nichts zu sagen. In diesem Fall hat man sich jetzt dazu entschlossen, selbst direkt an die Öffentlichkeit zu gehen und zu sagen, was Sache ist...
Als User kann es einem ja auch erstmal egal sein, wenn man dann gute Objektive geliefert bekommt.
Gruß
Christian
Als User kann es einem ja auch erstmal egal sein, wenn man dann gute Objektive geliefert bekommt.
Gruß
Christian
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Christian aus HH
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Hier mal alle INfos auf Englisch... Wir waren denn die Tokina Linsen in der Vergangenheit so an der D60/D50?
Mich interessiert das 17-135 = 24-200mm als Immer-Dabei... von der 8400 weiss ich wie toll 24mm sind...
Gruss
Christian
16-50 F2.8 DX (around 2006 fall sale schedule)
Inenlargement photo imaging EXPO "16-50mm" mock-up of release
1 it becomes "the large aperture standard lens" of the digital private AT-X PRO DX lens is. Because it becomes the design of the solid state image sensor of APS-C size, wide angular side expands 16mm and the wide limits, open F value is finished the design where the degree of difficulty which is unparalleled constantly F2.8 and other is high, by the fact that it makes the digital private design, in very compact size.
It loaded the focusing clutch only of トキナー, pursued also the operativity with manual focusing.
Details of development of this lens
With トキナー at PIE2005 of last year, it referred exhibited 17-45mmF4 DX, asked opinion from the customer. Concept was "small size advanced standard zoom", but at the below-mentioned reason we gave up sale.
1. The specifications of focal length are not enough the thing.
2. For focusing clutch loading and F value fixing of PRO specification, it does not correspond to market price
But, it receives and it came to the point of with, the large aperture standard zoom which トキナー seems in digital specification, with the demand which is said to be many in better wooden pail opinion, returning from starting point, developing latest 16-50mmF2.8DX. Concept "the large aperture of the AT-X PRO series, it actualizes constant F value," has made attractive standard zoom.
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50-135mm F2.8 DX (around 2006 summer sale schedule)
Inenlargement photo imaging EXPO "50-135mm" mock-up of release
It developed as "large aperture telephoto zoom" of the digital private AT-X PRO DX lens. By the fact that it makes solid state image sensor exclusive use of APS-C size, concept of former large aperture telephoto zoom is overturned, it actualized small size light weight conversion, it made the size which can be received to the general camera bag vertically. Focal length with 35mm format conversion 75-200mm suitable guaranteed the focus limits which it is easy to use, in omnipotence such as portrait and scenery to use made the lens which it can receive.
Details of development of this lens
With トキナー at 2002 photo EXPO it referred exhibited 60 - 120mmF2.8. It developed announced as a telephoto zoom in the compact large aperture, but we gave up sale in the below-mentioned reason.
1. At that time, it was necessary to ascertain the size of the solid state image sensor of the digital single-lens reflex where tendency has not become settled.
2. At this point in time, optical specification "of digital correspondence" of トキナー had not become settled completely.
But, echo to this lens, furthermore the high performance became important hint in order to develop large aperture telephoto zoom. It makes the solid state image sensor of the APS-C size conform which presently becomes main current, those where it makes the focus limits 50-135mm which it is easier to use are this lens. As a very we developed the compact and the high performance telelens.
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10-17mm F3.5-4.5 Fish Eye DX (around 2006 summer sale schedule)
Inenlargement photo imaging EXPO "10-17mm" mock-up of release
The super wide angular zoom which does the best-sellerdom 12-24mmF4 of トキナー and the description which is in the counter electrode. From 10mm as a diagonal fish eye, enjoy the unique description to 17mm which leaves distorted aberration, to pull the interest of the photograph, it raises.
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17-135mm F3.5-5.6 DX (around 2006 summer sale schedule)
Inenlargement photo imaging EXPO "17-135mm" mock-up of release
The wide angular limits were seriously considered, it had the concept only of トキナー, digital private high powered zoom. As a standard lens it made the compact appearance which can be used. When digital single-lens reflex is used with the outside, in order lens exchange is if possible lost, for the rubbish not to be attached to the image pickup element surface, when liking to use, it is. In this kind of case, 17-135mmF3.5-5.6 DX of トキナー is the universal lens which covers all photographing genres with 1.
Details of development of this lens
With トキナー, we sold 24-200mmF3.5-5.6 in 2001 as a high powered zoom. While the high powered zoom which wide side starts from 28mm is many, with setting of the individual focal length which thought of user needs, support was obtained. This time, by the fact that it makes the model which makes the solid state image sensor of APS-C size conform, further compact conversion was assured.
Above, at PIE2006 it referred exhibited, consecutively it starts selling 4 these lenses from the summer extending through the fall.
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Furthermore, when this time the lens is developed, we inform about relationship between corporation トキナー and the ペンタックス corporation everyone you think as the good opportunity.
From the latest lens group, both corporations developed with completely zero starts. While arguing optical specification and cost calculation etc., on the basis of mutual demand from plan stage of the product, approximately 1 year being joint, it started advancing the optical design from the half ago.
We assert clearly here, but both corporations are not anything related to OEM, are the cooperation development to the last in the optical design. As for optical system being the same, the mechanism part designs because both specifications, directivity of design is different, individually, also production foothold is different. The merit cost reduction with collaborative purchase of the 硝 material and standardization and the like of the internal part, in addition can expect also the improvement of productivity. But, as for the most important thing, also initial cost of shortening and the die etc. in development period being both, it is to be able to bear. The place where it keeps supplying the product which in the future included mutual technology, is charm to the customer it is existence. Expectation future in トキナー new product.
Mich interessiert das 17-135 = 24-200mm als Immer-Dabei... von der 8400 weiss ich wie toll 24mm sind...
Gruss
Christian
16-50 F2.8 DX (around 2006 fall sale schedule)
Inenlargement photo imaging EXPO "16-50mm" mock-up of release
1 it becomes "the large aperture standard lens" of the digital private AT-X PRO DX lens is. Because it becomes the design of the solid state image sensor of APS-C size, wide angular side expands 16mm and the wide limits, open F value is finished the design where the degree of difficulty which is unparalleled constantly F2.8 and other is high, by the fact that it makes the digital private design, in very compact size.
It loaded the focusing clutch only of トキナー, pursued also the operativity with manual focusing.
Details of development of this lens
With トキナー at PIE2005 of last year, it referred exhibited 17-45mmF4 DX, asked opinion from the customer. Concept was "small size advanced standard zoom", but at the below-mentioned reason we gave up sale.
1. The specifications of focal length are not enough the thing.
2. For focusing clutch loading and F value fixing of PRO specification, it does not correspond to market price
But, it receives and it came to the point of with, the large aperture standard zoom which トキナー seems in digital specification, with the demand which is said to be many in better wooden pail opinion, returning from starting point, developing latest 16-50mmF2.8DX. Concept "the large aperture of the AT-X PRO series, it actualizes constant F value," has made attractive standard zoom.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
50-135mm F2.8 DX (around 2006 summer sale schedule)
Inenlargement photo imaging EXPO "50-135mm" mock-up of release
It developed as "large aperture telephoto zoom" of the digital private AT-X PRO DX lens. By the fact that it makes solid state image sensor exclusive use of APS-C size, concept of former large aperture telephoto zoom is overturned, it actualized small size light weight conversion, it made the size which can be received to the general camera bag vertically. Focal length with 35mm format conversion 75-200mm suitable guaranteed the focus limits which it is easy to use, in omnipotence such as portrait and scenery to use made the lens which it can receive.
Details of development of this lens
With トキナー at 2002 photo EXPO it referred exhibited 60 - 120mmF2.8. It developed announced as a telephoto zoom in the compact large aperture, but we gave up sale in the below-mentioned reason.
1. At that time, it was necessary to ascertain the size of the solid state image sensor of the digital single-lens reflex where tendency has not become settled.
2. At this point in time, optical specification "of digital correspondence" of トキナー had not become settled completely.
But, echo to this lens, furthermore the high performance became important hint in order to develop large aperture telephoto zoom. It makes the solid state image sensor of the APS-C size conform which presently becomes main current, those where it makes the focus limits 50-135mm which it is easier to use are this lens. As a very we developed the compact and the high performance telelens.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
10-17mm F3.5-4.5 Fish Eye DX (around 2006 summer sale schedule)
Inenlargement photo imaging EXPO "10-17mm" mock-up of release
The super wide angular zoom which does the best-sellerdom 12-24mmF4 of トキナー and the description which is in the counter electrode. From 10mm as a diagonal fish eye, enjoy the unique description to 17mm which leaves distorted aberration, to pull the interest of the photograph, it raises.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
17-135mm F3.5-5.6 DX (around 2006 summer sale schedule)
Inenlargement photo imaging EXPO "17-135mm" mock-up of release
The wide angular limits were seriously considered, it had the concept only of トキナー, digital private high powered zoom. As a standard lens it made the compact appearance which can be used. When digital single-lens reflex is used with the outside, in order lens exchange is if possible lost, for the rubbish not to be attached to the image pickup element surface, when liking to use, it is. In this kind of case, 17-135mmF3.5-5.6 DX of トキナー is the universal lens which covers all photographing genres with 1.
Details of development of this lens
With トキナー, we sold 24-200mmF3.5-5.6 in 2001 as a high powered zoom. While the high powered zoom which wide side starts from 28mm is many, with setting of the individual focal length which thought of user needs, support was obtained. This time, by the fact that it makes the model which makes the solid state image sensor of APS-C size conform, further compact conversion was assured.
Above, at PIE2006 it referred exhibited, consecutively it starts selling 4 these lenses from the summer extending through the fall.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Furthermore, when this time the lens is developed, we inform about relationship between corporation トキナー and the ペンタックス corporation everyone you think as the good opportunity.
From the latest lens group, both corporations developed with completely zero starts. While arguing optical specification and cost calculation etc., on the basis of mutual demand from plan stage of the product, approximately 1 year being joint, it started advancing the optical design from the half ago.
We assert clearly here, but both corporations are not anything related to OEM, are the cooperation development to the last in the optical design. As for optical system being the same, the mechanism part designs because both specifications, directivity of design is different, individually, also production foothold is different. The merit cost reduction with collaborative purchase of the 硝 material and standardization and the like of the internal part, in addition can expect also the improvement of productivity. But, as for the most important thing, also initial cost of shortening and the die etc. in development period being both, it is to be able to bear. The place where it keeps supplying the product which in the future included mutual technology, is charm to the customer it is existence. Expectation future in トキナー new product.
Nikon D50, CP8700, Fuji F30.
Leider konnte ich es noch nicht ausprobieren,
aber hier sind bereits die ersten Preise:
http://www.fotokonijnenberg.nl/product_ ... duct=20630
http://www.fotokoch.de/dynsearch/search ... 7&fields=4
http://www.foto-erhardt.de/product_info ... 0d37b17a58
Wenn ich definitiv wüßte, dass es die gleich gute optische Leistung wie das 12-24er hat, hätte ich wohl schon bestellt.
Ich habe dankenswerter Weise 2 Testaufnahmen zugeschickt bekommen mit 10 und 17mm Einstellung.
Scharf und kontrastreich, aber selbst bei 17mm noch so stark verzeichnend, dass ich eher zum 12-24 raten würde!
aber hier sind bereits die ersten Preise:
http://www.fotokonijnenberg.nl/product_ ... duct=20630
http://www.fotokoch.de/dynsearch/search ... 7&fields=4
http://www.foto-erhardt.de/product_info ... 0d37b17a58
Wenn ich definitiv wüßte, dass es die gleich gute optische Leistung wie das 12-24er hat, hätte ich wohl schon bestellt.
Ich habe dankenswerter Weise 2 Testaufnahmen zugeschickt bekommen mit 10 und 17mm Einstellung.
Scharf und kontrastreich, aber selbst bei 17mm noch so stark verzeichnend, dass ich eher zum 12-24 raten würde!